One of the students at the high school I visited yesterday asked me how much I make as a writer. I told him I was so happy someone had the guts to ask. Talking about money is still such a taboo, but that's what leads to mythconceptions that all authors are as rich as Rowling.
Of course, the most popular blog post I've seen on writing finances lately comes from John Scalzi. On Monday, John wrote an in-depth post about his writing income, including a lot of good financial advice for writers and non-writers alike.
I'm going to do the same thing, for three reasons. 1. The Internet has a proud tradition of people like me riffing off of more popular bloggers like John. 2. I'm all about the mythbusting. 3. John Scalzi made $164,000 from his writing last year.
Don't get me wrong. I'm happy for Scalzi. Okay, slightly envious, but still mostly happy. And he does say quite clearly that he's an outlier. But when the only public data point is an outlier, that's what people are going to remember.
I made just under $16,000 from my writing last year. $2500 of that went right back into expenses, leaving me a nice little sum of $13,500 ... before I pay those nasty taxes. Still, it's enough to cover a slightly used minivan, make a few mortgage payments, and treat me and the wife to dinner from time to time, but definitely not in the job-quitting league. Though it was enough that I could rationalize the fancy leather jacket without feeling too guilty about it...
Anyway, there are two huge differences between me and Scalzi. (Probably more than two, but only two are relevant to this particular discussion.) The first is that he's writing fiction and non-fiction both, whereas I'm only doing fiction. The second is that he's a more popular writer than I am, with more books in print and more readers buying said books.
Me, I've got two books in print, the second of which came out in 2007. So in a lot of ways, I'm still young as a novelist. The annual income has risen every year for a while now, and I'm hoping to see that continue.
To break down that $16,000 a bit further, here's where the money came from:
Novels (U.S. sales): $6600
Novels (Foreign sales): $7000
Short fiction sales: $1000
Editorial work: $900
Speaking fees: $300
The money doesn't quite add up, because I'm rounding off. Close enough, though. My biggest single expense last year was a $700 lifetime membership to SFWA. After that, convention expenses and other promotional costs (bookmarks, tattoos, etc.) are roughly tied for second place.
What's the point of all this? Mostly because I think it's better to know stuff than to guess. The more folks know about what different writers make, the more realistic the expectations will be, and the better you'll be able to plan your own future. In my case, it's going to be an awfully long time before I can quit the day job, if ever.
Two other things worth noting: foreign sales are wonderful things, and I love my agent for his overseas connections. Also, even at the relatively low rates I'm getting as a new novelist, the novels still pay a lot better than the short fiction.
Now go read
ellameena's post on freelancing. I'll meet you over there, and we can all grumble about how much more those blasted non-fiction writers make than us hard-working fiction folks.
Of course, the most popular blog post I've seen on writing finances lately comes from John Scalzi. On Monday, John wrote an in-depth post about his writing income, including a lot of good financial advice for writers and non-writers alike.
I'm going to do the same thing, for three reasons. 1. The Internet has a proud tradition of people like me riffing off of more popular bloggers like John. 2. I'm all about the mythbusting. 3. John Scalzi made $164,000 from his writing last year.
Don't get me wrong. I'm happy for Scalzi. Okay, slightly envious, but still mostly happy. And he does say quite clearly that he's an outlier. But when the only public data point is an outlier, that's what people are going to remember.
I made just under $16,000 from my writing last year. $2500 of that went right back into expenses, leaving me a nice little sum of $13,500 ... before I pay those nasty taxes. Still, it's enough to cover a slightly used minivan, make a few mortgage payments, and treat me and the wife to dinner from time to time, but definitely not in the job-quitting league. Though it was enough that I could rationalize the fancy leather jacket without feeling too guilty about it...
Anyway, there are two huge differences between me and Scalzi. (Probably more than two, but only two are relevant to this particular discussion.) The first is that he's writing fiction and non-fiction both, whereas I'm only doing fiction. The second is that he's a more popular writer than I am, with more books in print and more readers buying said books.
Me, I've got two books in print, the second of which came out in 2007. So in a lot of ways, I'm still young as a novelist. The annual income has risen every year for a while now, and I'm hoping to see that continue.
To break down that $16,000 a bit further, here's where the money came from:
Novels (U.S. sales): $6600
Novels (Foreign sales): $7000
Short fiction sales: $1000
Editorial work: $900
Speaking fees: $300
The money doesn't quite add up, because I'm rounding off. Close enough, though. My biggest single expense last year was a $700 lifetime membership to SFWA. After that, convention expenses and other promotional costs (bookmarks, tattoos, etc.) are roughly tied for second place.
What's the point of all this? Mostly because I think it's better to know stuff than to guess. The more folks know about what different writers make, the more realistic the expectations will be, and the better you'll be able to plan your own future. In my case, it's going to be an awfully long time before I can quit the day job, if ever.
Two other things worth noting: foreign sales are wonderful things, and I love my agent for his overseas connections. Also, even at the relatively low rates I'm getting as a new novelist, the novels still pay a lot better than the short fiction.
Now go read
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AK!~ Fiction is WAY harder and makes less. Go figure.
A Hooters memoir/expose should put my own advances to shame, especially if there's a sexy cover!
I don't suppose your mother-in-law would care to adopt another fiction writer? ;-)
I guess this shows that we need to write non-fiction on the side, eh?
Great post and it took guts to post it. I'll link back to this a bit later today. :)
- Jill Myles
And while I would love to write some non-fiction, that would involve sacrificing something else -- day job, family time, fiction time... Right now, I'm content with less money, since it means I can focus more on fiction and the other things that really matter to me, ya know?
You is a brave soul...
If it's wrong, then I don't want to be right. We shall get high together, mon ami! Or something like that...
Heh ...
And yeah, isn't it fun watching that not-so-big-to-start-with advance check get sliced into two parts, then whittled away a bit more on the agent commission? All pre-tax, of course!
On the other hand, they paid $6000 for your book. Ergo, you rock! ;-)
I hope you remembered to count the leather jacket as a business expense. That's part of your impression management/PR budget... ;)
*hugs*
Ken
Trade a solid white collar salary with benefits for an unstable <$20K a year? Hello? McFly?
But yeah, the day job question does get a bit repetitive after a while. Every time I sell a book, my coworkers get nervous I'm going to jump ship. I think I'll start pointing them to this post for reassurance :-)
It's good to hear, since it gives me another argument in favour of writing in English instead of my native German. Because English books get translated a lot, while German books seldom make it into the vast English market.
And ironically, the bulk of the foreign income up there was for a few German deals for the goblin books. Don't ask me why, but my German publisher really seems to love me.
Margaret Yang
Fortunately, I'm fairly secure, on account of the fact that I'm very, very manly. Really I am. Can't you just see the testosterone?
I find the business side of this so fascinating, and quite possibly for exactly the reason's Scalzi mentions - that so many people seem to think writers are just rolling in the dough.
This is a hard road, but it's so worth it to me.
Is that sentence as messed up as I think it is?
A revenue line item that no doubt is huge for John Scalzi and not very big for you yet is backlist sales. My own behaviour as a reader often follows the pattern pick up interesting-looking new book / new book recommended by friend --> read book --> like book --> go looking for other books by same author, and I know I'm not alone in that. Every new book represents an opportunity to (a) sell more books to people who have already read your previous books and (b)
ensnareattract new readers who will then perhaps, now that they have read and liked the new book, buy (or ask their libraries to buy) the older ones, hooray!Yeah, but as Chance points out in her blog today, he's conflating his dayjob writing with his fiction writing. The number is misleading.
On a different note, I'm impressed with how many blogosphere conversations Scalzi inspired with that post...
How would it affect your writing if you knew, 100% certain, that you'd never get paid anything for it?
Beyond that, it gets tricky, because in a lot of ways, how much you get paid correlates to how widely you're read. If I never get paid but keep this same level of readership, I'd certainly continue to do it. If I lose money and readers both, I honestly don't know.
Thank you, very much, for this post. Now, back to editing.
But that's mostly poetry sales. Really don't make a lot on those.
Loved this post BTW. :D
A Life of Luxury. I haz it! Rlly!
I said, "Not likely."
She said, "You never know."
I said, "I have four words for you that pretty much assure I'll be here. Health care and retirement."
She laughed.
Not only is the meager income of writers a concern, but also is the high cost of growing old.
As a really beginning writer, I'm looking forward still to my leather jacket days. It's only a matter of time.
Catherine
Health care though ... yeah. Big time.
Dr. Phil
Scott Oden
Seriously, I do believe it's a good thing for writers to have a realistic idea what other folks in the field are making. And if it stops a few people from asking when I'm going to quit my day job, so much the better!
In interviews I don't quote my yearly income, but I try to make it clear to hopefuls that it isn't a "get rich overnight"—or very likely never— business. And I, too, have dealt with, and continute to deal with well meaning friends, relatives, and strangers who think that if I don't make as much as King or Rowling then I must be a failure. Living around the corner from King at the time that my first few books came out didn't help. I swear, every writer in Maine gets measured against him. And of course, why aren't your books being made into movies? Arghhh.
There are so many standards of success that outsiders just don't understand. Do your books stay in print? Are you getting royalties? Awards? Do you have an established fan base panting for your next book? Outsiders don't understand the the average shelf life for most books, and especially first novels, is measured in weeks or months.
There are several good articles out there, which I wish I could summon off the top of my head, stating how much the average writer makes. It's very low. By that standard, as my agent keeps trying to impress upon me, I'm doing quite well. Not Rowling well; realistically well.
One of the big problems for me has always been cash flow. It's a boom and bust business. I get royalties twice a year from Bantam. They fluctuate wildly, and I don't know in advance how much that's going to be. Foreign sales have been a very good thing, (money for nothing!!!!) but again, they are unpredictable and capricious. Some countries pay $400 or $500 per book and you never see royalties. Sometimes a little check shows up out of the blue when you least expect it. On the other end of the spectrum, Japan gave me $10,000 per Nightrunner book, which is twice the royalty I got for my first book sale here. Other countries fill up the spectrum in between. Some generate royalties, others never do. The point is, it's nothing a writer can really control and that can be really frustrating. It's hard to "treat it like a business" when so much is beyond your control. Careers can be scuttled by an editor leaving your publishing house, or even bad cover art. I know of a few writers who were black balled for getting "uppity".
It's not a business for the faint hearted. You have to love it for its own sake. And I have to admit, I've been damn lucky. I started publishing when I was still home with young kids, so my little income was mostly windfall. Twelve years later I'm making a modest living, but still glad to be married to a supportive guy with a "real" job. Of course, he's an academic, so we've pretty much doomed ourselves financially. ;-) But we're both following our bliss and are fortunate to be able to eat, too. Now if we can just get those pesky kids through college and into self supporting careers!
I definitely agree that it has to be for the love first. It's an insane way to try to make a living, between the money you actually make and the irregularity of when different pieces of those paychecks will finally arrive...
::Note to self -- bug agent about selling to Japan::
One of the good things about the day job is that I've got a steady, liveable income. I'm still able to see the random writing checks as a bonus to be applied toward catching up on debt (mortgage and student loans) or occasionally even tucking a bit away for a rainy day...