This has been a long month, and I find myself less patient than usual when people splash stupid all over my screen. Publishing hasn't changed in 150 years? Heck, look how much it's changed in the past 15, or even the past 5. Print on demand, ebooks, Google deciding copyright is more of a guideline than a rule, the decline of independent bookstores, the bankruptcy of a major distributor.... Look, I've got nothing against self-publishing. Goldfish Dreams was put out by a PoD press, and is now essentially self-published over on Fictionwise. (At 30% off today, by the way.) I just get frustrated by ... not ignorance, but the aggressive stupidity.
It's the same sort of stupid that Beth linked to, the kind that leads people to proclaim that agents (or editors, or publishers) are Evil, that they're stifling truly original and genius works and seeking instead third-rate formulaic hacks, that they're destroying literature and crushing the true artists.
Agents and editors want books that people will read and buy. Agents who pick books people won't buy end up going out of business. (Or they become scammers and start ripping off would-be authors, but that's another rant.) Usually the "Agents are mean poodoo-heads" rants come from writers who have themselves been rejected. So let's look at two possible scenarios for why Author Bob gets rejected.
1. Bob's book is truly brilliant and revolutionary. This book would change lives, and would sell millions of copies. It's a powerful book, and readers would love it if only those self-serving agents weren't working so hard to "ensure that quality fiction never hits [the publisher's] desk." Alas, Bob's chances have been crushed by those enemies of literature, the agents (or editors, depending on the rant.)Good books do get rejected, and sometimes agents and editors make mistakes. An agent takes on a book and a client for two reasons: because they love the book(s), and because they think those book(s) will sell. If either of those factors are missing, you're probably going to get rejected. Get over it. I know writers tend to have supersized egos, but if you think getting rejected means the agents and editors of the world are conspiring to crush literature, then we're looking at a whole new level of egomania.
2. Bob's book isn't as good as he thinks it is.
My editor at DAW rocks. She's brilliant when it comes to helping me improve my books. She and the other editor at DAW are good enough at deciding what to buy and what to reject that they've kept a major publisher in business for years. She's also one of the nicest people I've talked to. She's given me steadily increasing advances for my books. She's hooked me up with some great cover artists. She loves Jig the goblin and my princesses.
My agent kicks ass too, and I say that even though he rejected one of my earlier books. I probably could have sold the latest princess book to DAW without his help, but he negotiated a better royalty structure that I never would have considered. He sells the books overseas and probably triples the amount I earn on each book. He contacts publishers to remind them when checks are overdue so that I can do things like keep up on the mortgage payments. Plus he springs for pizza when we're in Chicago.
They're not the enemy. There's no conspiracy. Writing is hard, publishing is a business, and it ain't personal unless and until you try to make it so.
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*See here if you want my rant on self-publishing "success" stories.
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I adore my agent and my editor. They are both awesome.
Seriously, this person has a 112-word sentence in the narrative for no literary reason I can see. I mean, yeah, I've got a character who runs off at the mouth and the brain
on occasionall the time, because his brain goes a bazillion miles an hour and he Won't. Shut. Up, but even he isn't that wordy. Also, chicklit is chicklit, and labelling it "lit" doesn't mean it is.*cough* Not that I'm all over the wank report or anything.
Also, said author's gratuitous swipe at genre fiction was...unappreciated. And when the author "clarified" and said "Oh, I meant people like Stephanie Meyer--I'd love to write like Anne Rice"--er, that didn't help. Not to mention the fact that SMeyer (say what you will about the quality of the writing) has managed to tap into something in teen girl psyche, and wouldn't we all love to have her sales?
Agreed on the need for good editors. My books aren't perfect by a long shot, but some of the things that would have slipped through without my editor's "gentle feedback" to show me where I had gone brain-damaged.... If I ever start to become one of those writers who refuses to allow anyone to edit my precious words, my wife has standing orders to kick my ass.
My editors are both good, talented peoples (okay, I trained one, so I have to say that) and my agent has helped make my career into a better, stronger, more able to survive dry times thing. They are occasionally evil in a good way, but they are never ever conspiring against the writer. Quite the contrary.
(Publishers, on the other hand.... )
Also, editors/agents, like people, have preferences. I know people who have wildly different ideas than I do of what makes a good book. So it stands to reason that if you're rejected by an editor (or two, or three) they might just have very different tastes.
Or you might need to revise. And revise. And revise.
I'm going back to revising, now.
Kristen B.
Agents have to choose among a huge pile of prospects - it's only to be expected that some of the work they reject will be good. A lot of it will be bad, though! The good stuff will eventually sell somewhere, and the bad... Well, maybe we're better off if these writers get discouraged.
...the waiters at that ski lodge still talk about the time the same writer got picked three AGMs in a row. Poor Anne Squilda. She found her way to the lodge in the end tried to propiate them by burning her first-born manuscript and making it into martinis for them.
She never made it out of the lodge alive.
I know some historical fiction writers who self publish because they write books about some really obscure 7th century king of Mercia or something, not because they think there's a conspiracy. They are just realistic about the industry, and they know the need of editing a book and getting outside opinions. Also, historical fiction is more likely to get reviewed even when self published, so I can see why some writers go that way (and the books I read were not bad).
Personally, I will try the tradional route first, but in case I'll catch a bunch of those, 'I like the book but it won't sell'-rejections, I will have a look at Lulu.com. But I won't blame the industry for the fact I may write books that are too exotic for the market.
It took me a long time to secure an agent because my writing was crap, simple as that. With every book I got a little better at my craft, until finally it was up to standard, and had enough of a voice to make people go ...hmm yeah, I'll have a look at that.
If four years ago I'd decided that the problem lay with the agents hating on my genius, I'd still be writing the same tedious, badly strung-together junk.
Honestly, it has taken me years to come back to viewing them as Chaotic Neutral.
You know what happens when I get rejected? Yeah, it goes out again.
Big bad conspiracy against YOUR literary writing? Guess again. And do a quick check on whether your writing is, in fact, literary. If not even literate.
Dr. Phil
P.S. And Jim? Part of your crazy Penguicon schedule is my fault. I namedropped you along with GoH Wil Wheaton and his Penguicon minion John Scalzi while proposing a panel topic and they accepted it. (grin)
And as for your two potential rejection scenarios, I no longer advocate using Occam's Razor to ascertain why a book got rejected. True, you have incompetence, arrogance, and malevolence in publishing, but no more than in any other human endeavor. These days, I just settle for waving Occam's Razor over my head and screaming "Blood and souls for my lord Arioch!": I have the hair for it, and it gets a much better response as the recipients run away screaming.
This is based on the assumption that I'm understanding your opening paragraph correctly -- someone on Amazon claimed that Dickens self-published so it's the way to go?
Dickens, of course, was paid by the word and every issue of a newspaper with a serialized Dickens novel which DIDN'T contain the last chapter meant there'd be another issue with a built-in audience.
Dr. Phil
Dr. Phil
A lot of good books get self-published, and I always wonder why those were either rejected, or why the people felt the need to self-publish thbeir work.
People see conspiracies often. Ever since I became The Man (TM) at work, even the teachers I supervise thought I was trying to keep them from getting a raise. (Buh? Didn't I tell you about the inequality, and encourage you to go to the adjunct advisory board? Yes, that was me, not Deep Throat!) You can think you're trying to be friendly and accessible, and not be seen that way. No one was more surprised about my Machiavellian tendencies than myself...
There's also this: in the U.S., we have an entitlement culture. You think you DESERVE things. You COULD be a very good writer who doesn't break in, and that doesn't fit your sense of what you are entitled to. Well, sure, it can happen. Even in this best case scenario, even if your book is gold, you don't deserve anything. Unfortunate, but true.
I won't review why some writers get published and some don't. It's not an entire crap shoot. However, a lot of it IS the random chance of your story meeting the right person at the right time. Authors can't do anything about that. Authors have to make peace with this. Control what can be controlled. Be zen about what can't. No one promised anyone anything in life, ever.
A writer also doesn't have to play this game. As someone in the linked-to article proposes, there is self-publishing. If work is truly great, chances are good that it will get noticed. If the system isn't working for you, a truly creative person will find a way to change the playing field. Think laterally, rather than lamentably.
Authors should know it takes a village to make a good work.
Even a writer as good as *I* am (sniff!) needs to be pushed to produce my best. (Inherently I am a lazy type A, and live to check things off a mental list.) Perhaps we should be aware of this, and perhaps we would be more successful as we submit our work.
I can say all this as a published small presser who doesn't have an agent, because the universe hasn't promised me anything. I am lucky, as many writers are, to have some talent in writing, and some motivation to do it. All I can do is write, study, and improve. Maybe I'll get further in the future, but if I don't, no one promised me anything. At least I'm doing something I enjoy.
Blinding talent isn't the only pre-req for this job. Temperament, patience, modesty, and most importantly, persistence will probably land you an agent or an editor. Even if you are the most brilliant writer, without those other abilities, and more than I have listed, you will probably not be suited to cranking out books. And unfortunately, things don't always turn out as we hope.
Blaming the system for the whims of fate is crazy. Get out there, write another book, and try again.
To which I can only respond, "Really? I didn't." Every time I sell something to an editor for the first time, so far, at least, it has been an editor I have not met previously. I've met many of them since. And I've now met enough editors at cons that chances are high that at some point, I will indeed sell a story to an editor I already know. But...
Agents are harder. There are crooked agents out there. There are also agents who simply don't like what you've written. One agent who rejected me said that there was nothing wrong with the writing, she simply didn't like that particular story, and therefore felt she wouldn't to a good job of representing me. Which I respect. How could she sell it for me if she didn't love it?
Mmm...buh-bye.
I want an agent, but I do want an agent who likes my writing style.
Hah! You reveal yourself as part of the conspiracy!!
Game, set, match!
As always this is one of my favorites to hear you rant on, and you were very close to the vest on this one even. You know I don't agree with you 50% of the time, but in this case I can say you are dead on in my book.
Oh, and Happy Birthday!