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Is Your Book Appropriate for My Child?

  • May. 28th, 2009 at 7:54 AM
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This is one of my least favorite questions, and the one I’m asked most often.  The best times are when parents tell me they’ve read the book, but still ask me whether it’s appropriate for children.  Yes, this has really happened.  On more than one occasion.

Should your kid read my book?  How the frak should I know?  Some parents let their kids read the pop-up Kama Sutra at age six.  Others think The Cat in the Hat will turn their children into drugged-out hippies.  (Some of Seuss’ more adult works, on the other hand … but that’s another topic.)

I understand parents are busy, and don’t have the time to prescreen everything their children read.  Heck, I wouldn’t have wanted my parents to limit me to books they had read first.  But as an author, it’s a lot easier for me to answer the parent who asks “Does your book have any graphic sexual imagery in it?” than it is “Should my kid read it?”

The first parent is asking about my book.  The second is asking me to make a parenting decision for his or her child.  I have no problem trying to help, but for all our sakes, please don’t be the second parent.

Clear enough?  Groovy.  Because now it’s time to list all the answers I’d like to give, but probably shouldn’t….

“Should my child read your book?”

  • Can you prove that’s really your child?
  • Yes, but only the odd-numbered pages.
  • You mean the kid standing there playing Grand Theft Auto on his Nintendo DS?
  • No!  She should read my books, plural.  How do you expect me to quit my day job if your lazy kid only reads one?
  • Yes.  When he’s finished, he can let you know whether or not it’s appropriate for grown-ups.
  • How do you feel about nose-picking injuries, pixie pee, and gay fire-spiders?
  • I’m sorry, Jim left an hour ago.  I’m his decoy.  His protection.  His loyal bodyguard.
  • Not without a prescription.
  • Wil Wheaton said my book was cool!  If you don’t buy it, he’s gonna march down to this bookstore and start throwing critical hits on your ass.
  • Make sure she reads it backwards so she gets all the subliminal Satanic messages.
  • You must be this tall to read Stepsister Scheme.  But he can read the goblin books.
  • Print is dead.
  • Everyone knows kids prefer to read books about younger characters.  Here, try this one by Nabokov.
  • Sweet Zeus, what are you saying?  Nobody can read these books!  We have to keep the words trapped in the pages.  Can’t you hear them screaming?  Always screaming and plotting their horrible, horrible revenge.  Don’t open that book!  Don’t let them see you!!!

Please feel free to add your own.

Mirrored from Jim C. Hines.

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[info]mindyklasky wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:02 pm (UTC)
The first chapter of my first book, THE GLASSWRIGHTS' APPRENTICE, ends with a character being shot through the eye with an arrow. I read that chapter at my first reading, at the law firm where I worked. The founding partner came up to me afterwards and asked if the book was appropriate for his 9-year-old grandson.

I was gobsmacked. He'd just *heard* the level of violence in the book.

I pointed that out to him, and he bought the book. I wonder what that kid is doing now?
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:05 pm (UTC)
This being the U.S., it still seems like we worry much more about sexual content than about violence. Shot through the eye is one thing, but if a character flashes a breast, well that book's right out!
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[info]cat_mcdougall wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:10 pm (UTC)
I let my eight year old read it. Why? Because I read it first, and while there were some things in it that we needed to discuss (the emotional abuse, lesbianism, etc) the book opened a dialogue with my daughter, and she asked me about some of those things and I told her my thoughts/experiences and let her think about it, and when she came to me with more questions, I didn't even blink.

... So your book ended up being a teaching tool!

But then, maybe I'm a bad parent for wanting my child to think?
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:35 pm (UTC)
I'm glad. It's wonderful that she comes to you with these things, and you're actually able to talk about them. I love this!

I'd be fine with my 8-year-old reading it as well, and I'd hope she'd do the same thing. Sadly, she hadn't yet gotten into her Daddy's books :-P
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[info]naturalfractual wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:17 pm (UTC)
wow
There's pop-up Kama Sutra? wow - I don't get out enough.

I am beginning to think that child bearing needs to be licensed. sigh
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:36 pm (UTC)
Re: wow
They referenced the pop-up version in Red Dwarf. I don't know if there's a real one, but it wouldn't surprise me at all...
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[info]stormsdotter wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:23 pm (UTC)
My father handed me the first four ElfQuest book when I was eight, because he needed to make a writing deadline, and he needed to keep me entertained for a few hours. EQ is still my favorite comic.

I adored them, but thought the sex scenes were boring. No, really, I didn't get the "grownup slumber party" when I was eight.

What can you take away from this? well, I think that to many adults worry about "appropriateness." Many things will go over children's heads, and if a child asks some questions, it's an opportunity to discuss things with them.
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:37 pm (UTC)
Yes! I heard a story a while back about a parent who discovered their kid reading a book with sexual scenes in it. So when the kid finished, the parent took a deep breath and said, "Do you want to talk about the sex in the book?"

The kid was dumbfounded. "There was sex in that book???"
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[info]halspacejock wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:45 pm (UTC)
An early self-pubbed version of Hal had a graphic scene where Clunk was interfacing with the Navcom. I sent a copy of the book to a contact, and he proudly reported his twelve year old daughter was reading it. I told him to take the book off her and tear out page 59, and he wrote back to say she was already up to page 200...

With each revision of the book I toned down the humour, until the properly published 2005 edition was relatively kid-friendly. I can blame this contact of mine for that, because I was highly embarrassed even though he though it was hilarious.

Nowadays, when people ask me whether my books are suitable for their kids, I ask them whether their kids are watching Doctor Who or Play School.
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 01:54 pm (UTC)
::Snicker:: By age 12, I suspect most kids have read and seen far worse than Clunk's output port.

Asking what other books/shows the child is into is a good idea.
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[info]antonstrout wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:08 pm (UTC)
Go see that Strout fella over there.

Check out my teen-action/adventure series by Hines & Strout entitled Perry Hotter & the Were-Jaguar of Misfortune!
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:20 pm (UTC)
Have you seen the cover art for that one yet?
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[info]wldhrsjen3 wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:10 pm (UTC)
Hee. I love this list!!! :D

(And in general, as a parent I'm far more likely to allow my children to read slightly more mature books than to let them watch television programs I consider inappropriate. Children will form their own visual images from a book based on their level of experience and exposure - I don't think it's *quite* as troublesome if they read something they weren't quite ready for because they'll likely ignore it or skim right past. And as I commented above, the chance to use a book as a conversation tool is really valuable. Television or movies, however, sometimes offer a level of visual intensity that might really bother a child who isn't ready for it. Jmho.)
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:21 pm (UTC)
I do remember times as a child when I was haunted by something I saw on TV. The visuals hit me in a way that books never did, even though the books were probably as violent or moreso in some cases.
[info]greenmtnboy18 wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:11 pm (UTC)
That depends, is your child appropriate for my book?
[info]rarelylynne wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:15 pm (UTC)
Is your book appropriate for my kid?
...only if you want them to turn out warped like me. ;-)

I keed, I keed.

Every kid reacts differently to sex or violence. Caitlin (age 6) just zoomed through the LOTR films, watches Doctor Who, and enjoys Star Wars. Hell, I took her to see Mamma Mia in the theatre (which had *gasp* a bum shot of a guy), and we'll likely take her to Star Trek.

We draw the line between "adventure" and "gory" violence(no Tarantino or John Woo films anytime soon, ferexample, although Jackie Chan, Robin Hood, and Xena: Warrior Princess is fine).

Romance, though? Even a little nudity? Not a problem, so long as a *healthy relationship* of some kind is being modeled (and the genders of the people involved matter not in our household).

But that's *our* job. To make those choices. For our kid and her own reactions.

*sigh*

Parents are responsible for deciding how their own kids will be warped, until they deem their kids mature enough to warp themselves.
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Is your book appropriate for my kid?
Some of John Woo's stuff disturbs me enough I won't watch it. But I'm glad you're giving her Jackie Chan :-)

"Parents are responsible for deciding how their own kids will be warped, until they deem their kids mature enough to warp themselves."

I like this a lot.
[info]phantasm13 wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:16 pm (UTC)
*giggles*

I like the last answer in the list the most.

I have a similar list for parents who ask me dumb questions about why I want them to bring a rain coat on a rainy day for their child... and similar such questions.

[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:03 pm (UTC)
"I have a similar list for parents who ask me dumb questions about why I want them to bring a rain coat on a rainy day for their child... and similar such questions."

I think I need a :headdesk: icon.
[info]cathschaffstump wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:28 pm (UTC)
Speaking as a censored ex-junior high teacher, the scale of parental responsibility has often puzzled me.

When I decided to suggest the fateful Chocolate War as 7th grade literature curriculum, every parent had to sign a permission slip because the book has some naughty language in it, and it had already been challenged by a parent.

Many parents were truly laissez faire. One parent who was very devout actually, said she wanted her kid to read the book with me, because she couldn't imagine anyone better to discuss some of the book's issues with her kid.

The other end of the scale are the parents who have decided to protect the entire community from Cormier's language by having the school ban the book. That's a whole 'nother level--deciding for OTHER families that their kids can't read the book.

Obviously, I feel the middle approach is best. Books can be a learning experience if there is guidance. I'm not a parent, but if I were, I wouldn't have any problem with having children read Stepsister, and discuss the issues therein.

Lines:

CAN your child read my book?
Only if you sign this liability form first.
I don't know. Do you want your child to think more than you seem to?
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:02 pm (UTC)
::Makes a note to bring liability forms to the next booksigning::

Grumble. The "Ban the nasty bookses" crowd is a whole other level of rant.
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[info]llwheeler wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:52 pm (UTC)
Everyone knows kids prefer to read books about younger characters. Here, try this one by Nabokov.

Ahahahaha, you nearly made me spray my breakfast all over my screen. I think that's my favourite one.

I had a conversation with one of my best friends not too long ago, both of us in our early 20s, about a book we'd both read when we were around 10. She'd completely gotten all the sex, and it had all gone right over my head. So it's completely an individual experience for each kid I think. And that being said, are either of us horribly scarred from our different experiences with that book? Nah. (Though oddly enough, I can't for the life of me remember right now which book we were talking about...)
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:01 pm (UTC)
If I've ruined even one person's keyboard, then I've done my job for the day :-)

I've heard similar stories to your own, that a lot of kids tend to just gloss over the scenes they either don't understand or aren't quite ready for.
[info]shannachie wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 02:57 pm (UTC)
Well, my book "Das Obsidianherz" has one rather... hrmhm... clear sexual action scene in it, and I was invited to read from this book to two school classes of 15 year olds.
Of course, that was in Germany.
And, of course, they might have invited me without reading the entire book first.
So, the question is: will they invite me back?
But basically most YA fiction (in German) is rather clear about babies not being found under gooseberry bushes. I am just reading a pirate adventure by German author Christoph Hardebusch "Sturmwelten" which is obviously aimed at 12-16 year olds, and the hero has had intimate relationships with two different women.
But maybe in Europe we are a little more unconcerned about these matters?
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:00 pm (UTC)
"But maybe in Europe we are a little more unconcerned about these matters?"

Very possible. Anecdotally that seems to be the case, though I don't have any hard research to confirm it.

Though I'm told young adult fiction tends to include more sexuality than I would have expected. I was reading a friend's YA book and came across a scene that made me blush as an adult. Not a bad thing, but not at all what I expected to find in YA.
[info]mtlawson wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:13 pm (UTC)
Hmm... I've been wondering the exact same question about some of the books I've been reading. Our oldest is 10, and I don't think she has quite enough understanding to handle certain topics without a lot of stomping or "that's stupid!" coming out of her. Also, she's surprised me by certain things.

I figured she'd be scared of some of the stuff in the Harry Potter books (she's at the beginning of Half-Blood Prince now), but what gave her nightmares was reading some of the Nancy Drew books that she's been given. Now our 8 year old... When he got to the end of Goblet of Fire when the Death Eaters popped out again, he set the book aside and declared that he was done for a while. (That "done" lasted about 6 months, btw.)

The best thing I could say is that it depends on the maturity level of the kid involved, and the parents ought to be the best judge of that. If they aren't or refuse to be, well...

FWIW, I think my oldest is ready for the Goblin books so far (haven't read Goblin War yet), but I think she's a year away from relinquishing her Disney-ized princesses and throwing herself into Stepsister. She would be utterly confused by the rape references there (it may take a year or two to comprehend those from human sexuality point of view as well), but I suspect the big hang up would be the holding onto those old princess notions. Not that I'd tell her "no" if she wanted to read it, but I think she'd just start and put it down until she was ready.

Oh, and thanks a bunch for sticking "Don't Stand so Close to Me" in my head with that Nabokov comment, Jim. I have to go find some Megadeth to drown the darn thing out.
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC)
Grumble. I did NOT have that song stuck in my head as I was writing this. In fact, my brain has been remarkably earworm-free all day ... up until your comment popped up in my Inbox. Thanks so much!

I do think you're right about the princess books requiring a slightly more advanced reader than the goblins. The stories and characters are a little more complex, and there are references that I suspect would go over a younger reader's head.
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[info]stillnotbored wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:41 pm (UTC)
This list made me laugh so hard.

I never censored my kids reading. If they were old enough to be interested in a book, they were old enough to read it. Books with ideas and concepts over their heads tended to bore them and they usually put those down on their own. Both my kids knew I'd talk to them about anything that might disturb them or that they didn't understand. As a result, both of them were reading on college level before junior high school.

I was sometimes the odd parent out when it came to books and considerably more liberal than the parents of my kids friends. But I truly believe the way to kill a child's imagination is to forbid them to explore and experience ideas outside their normal, everyday life. Books are the safest way for a child to do that.

I was much more worried about the violence in movies and video games, especially with my son, than I ever was with books.
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:53 pm (UTC)
A part of me would love to keep my kids safe from everything scary or potentially disturbing in the world, but that ain't gonna happen. So I'd rather they come across things in a book where they can close it and come ask questions.

And if they want to read a particular book, why would I discourage that? I want them to read. I might tell them what the book's about, if I don't think they understand what they're getting into. But take a kid who wants to read something and tell him/her no?
[info]andrewfeland wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:43 pm (UTC)
Wil Wheaton said the book was cool? It must be totally okay for my kids, then.
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:53 pm (UTC)
He blurbed Goblin Quest. Coolest blurb ever. He actually provided several, including "This book is too f***ing cool for words!"

For some reason, DAW didn't put that one on the cover.
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[info]sartorias wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 03:58 pm (UTC)
I used to field that question a lot, as a teacher. If I knew the parent and or kid well, I would discuss the book and my reasons for yes or no . . . but if it was a strange adult, I threw the question back on them. "Why don't you read it? You know what's best for your child." (Even if I'm getting signs they don't.)
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:43 pm (UTC)
What sort of reasons would you talk about, for kids/families you knew?
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[info]matociquala wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 04:02 pm (UTC)
I love you.
[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:43 pm (UTC)
::Grin::
[info]georgmi wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 04:05 pm (UTC)
"They let you have kids?"
[info]threeoutside wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 04:19 pm (UTC)
Smudge is gay??????

[info]jimhines wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
See http://jimhines.livejournal.com/320511.html for the context :-) The bit about Smudge comes at the very end.
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(Anonymous) wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 04:46 pm (UTC)
I'm happy that my parents never tried to censor what I read. They were always of the mind that if a book was over my head in any way then I wouldn't enjoy reading it.

It worked too. I remember being about ten and picking up one of my mothers romance books. Ten pages into it and I ran to find a Fear Street that I hadn't read in a while.
[info]janni wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC)
I wish I could remember who said, on a WFC panel one year, "People have hurt me. No book has ever hurt me."

I wish we could all chill out about the whole what-kids-are-reading thing. A bit of stray content of any sort isn't going to kill them--and if they really can't handle it, they'll likely put the book down.
[info]asakiyume wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:46 pm (UTC)
Precisely!
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[info]asakiyume wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC)
Those were great! I love them. Especially the remark about Grand Theft Auto (Word!) and the idea of a height requirement for The Stepsister Scheme

It so much depends on the kids, doesn't it, and kids, themselves, know what they like. They'll put down a book if it's not for them. And if they enjoy it--fantastic!
[info]namelessarchon wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 05:58 pm (UTC)
Come on Jim, we both know Wil Wheaton can't roll a critical to save his own ass, let alone help you out!
[info]lizziebelle wrote:
May. 28th, 2009 06:03 pm (UTC)
I used to have a whole list of snappy answers for stupid questions people would ask when I was in retail, always hoping to get the chance to use them on my last day. Of course, I never did. *g*
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