A while back, we had a discussion on the blog about the cover art for my princess novels. For the most part, I really like these covers, but they’re not perfect.
Now I could talk about the way women are posed in cover art … or I could show you. I opted for the latter, in part because it helped me to understand it better. I expected posing like Danielle to feel a little weird and unnatural. I did not expect immediate, physical pain from trying (rather unsuccessfully) to do the hip thing she’s got going on.
I recruited my wife to take the pictures, which she kindly did with a minimum of laughter.

Being me, I naturally couldn’t stop there. I headed over to Amazon and grabbed a sampling of book covers, primarily urban fantasy, and spent the evening doing a photoshoot. Click on if you want to see the results (or if you just really want to see a shot of topless Jim).





I’m tempted to use the Night Myst pic as my new author photo.
In all seriousness, I spent the rest of last night with pain running through most of my back. Even the pose in The Shape of Desire, which first struck me as rather low-key, is difficult to imitate and feels really forced. Trying to launch my chest and buttocks in two different directions a la Vicious Grace? Just ow.
To be clear, there’s nothing wrong with being sexual. I can totally see Snow from the princess books flaunting her stuff, for example. But posing like these characters drives home exactly what’s being emphasized and what’s not.
My sense is that most of these covers are supposed to convey strong, sexy heroines, but these are not poses that suggest strength. You can’t fight from these stances. I could barely even walk.
Guys, you should try it sometime. Get someone who won’t laugh at you too much to try to help you match these poses. The physical challenge is far more enlightening than anything I could say. (Wardrobe changes are optional.)
A few covers which I feel do a pretty good job of conveying strong, capable female characters: The Gaslight Dogs, An Artificial Night, The Darkest Edge of Dawn. Other suggestions and general discussion are welcome, as always.
Related: A contortionist and martial artist tries to imitate a comic book “fighting pose” … and can’t do it.
Mirrored from Jim C. Hines.










Comments
This contorting of the female figure for photo purposes is something that, coincidentally, "How to Be a Pin-Up Model" talks about. The commentator (a woman) who talks about modeling suggests that if you are comfortable, you probably don't look your best. So, art is really following through on something that is encouraged in real life. Or modelling life.
Cath
I'm curious about the Pin-up Model comments, though I suspect this would quickly turn into a rather in-depth discussion on concepts and definitions of beauty and attractiveness. Who gets to say what looks best, and is that definition a natural one, or one that we've learned after being taught that this is what beauty looks like?
I've talked about this sort of thing before, but actually posing really drives home exactly what is (and isn't) being emphasized as sexy or attractive...
(I have been rather proud of the covers for the Cosa Nostradamus books. Even when they insisted on putting Wren in leather, they kept the poses reasonable, except for Free fall, which is a dream sequence, anyway. And Bonnie's been straight-up sensible.)
That said, um, Jim? The basic poses (when not exaggerated for cover license) are somewhat less painful for women then men. We swivel at the hip a little easier.... :-)
Edited at 2012-01-11 02:43 pm (UTC)
Admittedly, it's dealing with comics mostly so there's addition biology!fail on top of the ridiculous poses.
Also, while the people above are correct in both biological difference and practice can make a lot of this sort of posing easier for women, it still isn't very natural.
"while the people above are correct in both biological difference and practice can make a lot of this sort of posing easier for women, it still isn't very natural."
Great point, thank you.
This made me laugh today and with a friend RIGHT NOW having heart surgery this morning..I really needed the laugh.
Thanks!:)
I find webcomic archives to be a good distraction sometimes. If you read my blog, you might appreciate Order of the Stick or Dr. McNinja.
Yeah, I couldn't find that Tiffany picture without Flynn attached to it.
It's not just in SF/F, either. I love the show Castle, and Stana Katic's character in particular - she's smart, capable, independent, has great chemistry with Nathan Fillion, and can lay on the snark like nothing. But she's constantly traipsing around in two-inch heeled boots, including in places where they're completely impractical. I realize it's as much about wardrobe as it is sex appeal (making sure she and NF aren't too ill-matched in height), but it's still entirely about looks, and it drives me bonkers.
And yeah, Beckett in heels chasing after bad guys ... just no.
This is wonderful, Jim. What's fascinating additionally is the eye-line on those covers -- the women are either giving the 'come-on' stare, or some form of 'coy-little-me'. What they don't do is look at the viewer as an equal: they're inviting Gaze, not expressing their personality. You photos really bring that out.
A long time ago, back when I was at MSU, someone described an exercise in which men try to mimic the poses of women in pornography. I confess I was never brave enough to try that one...
Overly sexy for no reason makes me cranky.
Yep. I also question whether some of these poses are truly sexy... Tastes vary, of course.
Why is that lady in the last cover cutting her own clothes off?
(Laura has a point that women do swing a little more easily on the hips, but still, I very much doubt normal women could hold those alluring poses).
SO WORTH IT!