Way back in the beginning of 2012 when I started doing this cover pose thing, the idea was to take the poses many female characters are contorted into for book covers, and to find a way to highlight exactly how ridiculous and impractical they were. And also to have fun. I definitely wanted it to be fun. I followed up with a continuation of the discussion, looking at the fact that yes, men are sexualized and objectified too, but not in the same ways. Men’s poses are almost always less physically awkward, more “action-ready,” and more powerful.
When I started the Aicardi Syndrome Foundation cover pose fundraiser, I saw it as 1) a way to take something fun and do more of it while supporting a great cause, and 2) a way to continue pointing out problematic poses on our book covers.
The trouble is, I didn’t spend much time introducing and contextualizing the Cover Pose Tradition at the start of the fundraiser. And when we did the first Scalzi/Hines pose-off, while I plugged the fundraiser, I didn’t provide any context at all for why we were doing this.
For my regular readers, that shouldn’t be a problem. But the Scalzi/Hines piece got a lot of press from places like Fark and Boing-Boing, meaning a lot of folks came in and saw two SF/F authors dressing up/posing like women for charity. And some of the reaction began to shift from, “I say, those poses seem remarkably impractical, and how exactly does one do that without dislocating one’s ankle?” to “Hey, guys dressing or posing like girls are both ugly and hilarious!”
This is on me. My blog, my fundraiser, my responsibility. It’s not like I’m unaware of John’s internet appeal and the likely results of our pose-off. (Though even so, the response was bigger than I could have imagined, and I appreciate that - thank you.) But I was caught up in the excitement of raising a lot of money for a good cause, and the flat-out fun of competing with a goofy and good-natured friend. So I didn’t think enough about how this might all come across, nor did I take the time to introduce and contextualize what we were doing.
I apologize for that mistake.
Both John and I had fun with this. Speaking for myself, I want you to laugh at the absurdity of these poses. Sure, one of the reasons I use props like butter knives and giant teddy bears is because I’m cheap and don’t want to pay for real props. But another reason is that I want to encourage the laughter.
I can handle good-natured ribbing, too. I know that when I post these pictures, I can expect an email from my brother asking me to reimburse him for another five years of therapy. I know where that’s coming from, and I’ll get him back soon enough.
But if you’re laughing because you’re a straight guy and therefore must declare all male bodies brain-searingly ugly? If you’re laughing because you think a man in a dress is funny and should be mocked? In other words, if you’re laughing because of various aspects of ingrained sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and other discriminatory nonsense? Then you’ve missed the point so badly it’s not even funny.
For the record, John Scalzi is damned sexy. He’s a smart, funny, and yes, good-looking man. For me, what makes his cover pose pic great is his obvious humor and self-confidence. Do I want to hop into bed with him? Well, not really. For one thing, I’m straight. For another, his wife would kick my ass. (Or else she’d want to watch, and then there would be performance anxiety issues, and I’m dealing with enough pressure these days.) And of course, I have leg stubble that would probably make it less pleasant for both of us. But I can look at that picture, grin, and say, “Yeah, that’s a man who rolled well in the Charisma department.”
So please do me a favor. Step back and ask yourself what exactly you’re laughing at, and where that’s coming from. ‘Cause I’m starting to see some rather problematic reactions out there.
And for my part, I apologize again, and will work to do a better job introducing and contextualizing the rest of these poses.
Thanks.
Mirrored from Jim C. Hines.










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THIS is exactly why I laugh. But then, I knew the context behind the pose off as well.
I can see why it would be problematic to those who didnt know the backstory though.}:/
And for my part, I apologize again, and will work to do a better job introducing and contextualizing the rest of these poses.
That's all anyone could ask. It won't stop some people, but forewarned is four-limbed.
Edited at 2012-12-13 02:39 am (UTC)
(And yes, that you included "transphobia" on that list is one reason I'm impressed.)
As ever, while the effort to provide context is admirable, you are equally not responsible for people and/or media outlets who prove to be impervious to it.
Yes, this. (I have "wins the Internet" as my tag for his blog.) I really appreciate the combination of humor and context sensitivity, the willingness to point out when jerks are being jerkish, and the thoughtful and high-hearted way that he works for change. And fun! It makes him one of the most enjoyable bloggers I read.
For what it's worth, part of why I have been enjoying these poses and the contest is the ridiculousness of the basis (weird contortions on covers), and a bigger part is the conversation that you start with your commentary about them. Honestly, the feminism of the conversation isn't the big draw. The ludicrousness of the poses is what starts the humor for me. "Dislocating my shoulder for charity," and leg cramp comments, and what a good sport your photographer wife is as you work to perfect horribly imperfect presentations are all the human interest / comedy that I want to read and support.
Regardless, I appreciate that you asked the question: why are we laughing. It's worth a quick second introspective poke.
I'll say for the record that neither you nor John are hideous. You're both pretty cute, and personally I think that makes it funnier.
Don't let it get under your skin.
But I know the context too.
Also? TOLD you that those legs would get you the votes. (smug) Ha. :P
And personally I have always been rather attracted to men in dresses.
And also, ditto.
And I want to explore those thinky thoughts, but I have to leave for a BLS class in about fifteen minutes due to stupid bridge traffic. Hopefully these thoughts won't be edged out by chest compressions.
I think another part is that you're doing the poses in drag. When a man is doing drag for comedy, it's very easy for it to go wrong, for it to look like laughing at women in a sexist way. (I've seen drag that doesn't look like it's mocking women, but it's trying to laugh with, not laugh at. And most of it isn't trying for laughs at all.)
When you start out pointing and laughing at something that really deserves to be mocked, I'm not sure it's possible for any laughter you end up with to be other than mean. (Look how unrealistic! Look how stupid! Look how girly! Look how incongruous, with some high femme cues but not others!) I understand the temptation to use any tactics available to make an audience laugh louder, once you get them going. But you might want to consider the effect of costuming, for the next round.
(There is also the aspect of "people are paying for this"; cis women, for example, would not garner many donations if they set up the same fundraiser--or if donations did happen, it might well be from a misogynist perspective--so there's privilege in the fact that thousands of dollars have been donated to see Jim Hines, Scalzi, etc. in dresses doing feminine poses. With no overt aspect of "oh you're so hot", and instead an overt aspect of "oh you are so silly/hilarious/etc".)
It's funny, yes. It's horrific, yes. It's male competitiveness, yes. Has it become a bit bigger than the original context? Yes, I think so. But in a good way. You've really raised awareness for this charity, this condition.
Jane Hines is proud of you.
Oz
Win-win-win, as far as I'm concerned.
I happen to like men in skirts, with or without shaved legs. One of the trageties of patriarchy is the limited selection of men in skirts.
Is there some fannish woman you could get to do the poses too? It might make it more clear that it's about the poses being ridiculous for anyone and not about laughing at the idea that men might wear clothing our society codes as feminine if the performance of the poses weren't gender-exclusive.
Yes! Men should totally get to wear skirts if they want to, and not just as drag. I remember the webpage of a man who went by "Skirtman", with a lot of very nice pictures of him wearing skirts and not particularly trying to look feminine. It worked quite well.
Someday. *sigh*
You're going to get mocked for whatever you do on the internet, it's part of the experience. Don't let it change what you do.
So . . . you have people thinking down several different paths.
Edited at 2012-12-13 03:22 pm (UTC)
If I were a man running around in women's clothing, I'd have no end of trouble.
*Or possibly just people who have been taught that it's okay to ask if you don't know even if that is perceived as an imposition by the person being asked.