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Fake Writer Girls!

By now, I assume most of you are familiar with the Fake Geek Girl phenomenon, in which women’s geek credentials are repeatedly challenged, because everyone knows girls don’t like geek stuff. (Isn’t that right, Big Bang Theory?) It gets even worse if the woman in question is traditionally attractive, because even if we acknowledge the possibility of the occasional female geek, we all know she has to be ugly and socially maladjusted, right? Fortunately, we have men who tirelessly volunteer their time to challenge and harass these wannabes.

Because do you know what would happen if we let Fake Geek Girls into the inner circle of geekdom? PURE, UNMITIGATED GIRL-COOTIES!

Well let me tell you, Fake Geek Girls have nothing on the Fake Writer Girls. You know the ones I mean. Those women who think they can write stories and books that are just as good and important and serious as the ones written by us men. It’s almost like they don’t even understand that their work is inherently inferior, because GIRLS!

One of the best ways to spot a Fake Writer Girl is by looking for Mary Sues, those unrealistically competent, know-it-all, oh-so-special characters who are the Best at Everything! They’re nothing but silly, estrogen-fueled wish fulfillment fantasies. Like a girl could ever be an active, competent character. Oh, those wacky Fake Writer Girls and their ridiculously super-special heroines. If only they could write realistic, heroic protagonists like Ender Wiggin, James Bond, Eragon, Lazarus Long, Clark Kent, Kvothe Kingkiller, Legolas…

And don’t get me started on how they’re ruining science fiction and fantasy with their romance cooties! Urban fantasy? Paranormal romance? Why don’t they care about the history of our genre? SF/F stories should be about spaceships! and swords! and fighting! and yes, the occasional hooking up, but only when it’s nubile young women throwing themselves at manly protagonists!

It would be nice if these Fake Writer Girls could just stay in the romance section, because we all know romance isn’t a real genre. I mean, sure, romance makes up 55% of all fiction sales, but a real man wouldn’t be caught dead reading that stuff, so it doesn’t count. Besides, ALL ROMANCE NOVELS ARE JUST FORMULAIC, UNIMAGINATIVE HACKWORK! (On a totally unrelated note, I just remembered that I have to write a review of this awesome book I read last week. It’s just like Lord of the Rings, except instead of a ring, it’s a cursed dagger! Brilliantly original stuff.)

You might laugh, but Fake Writer Girls present a real threat to real writers like me, writers who write while also being guys. Just look at this report from VIDA that shows how lady writers are stealing review space from hard-working men! They took 33% of the book reviews in The Atlantic, 36% from Harpers, 26% from the London Review of Books, 19% from the New York Review of Books, and 34% from the New York Times. And they want to take even more review space away from real (i.e., male) authors! Why can’t they be happy getting slightly more than half of the reviews in Romantic Times and leave the rest to us? Why do they have to hurt men’s careers with their Fake Writer Girl Agendas?

Here are just a few known Fake Writer Girls, authors whose work you definitely should not immediately go check out and buy and read and tell all of your friends about.

Please feel free to suggest others in the comments. Because the more you know…

Known Fake Writer Girls

  • Jaime Lee Moyer – Wrote a perfectly good book about vengeful ghosts, then ruined it with relationships and romance!
  • Seanan McGuire – Prolific and popular. Stole multiple spots on the NYT Bestsellers List from deserving boy authors.
  • Nalo Hopkinson – Her first book was Brown Girl in the Ring. Yeah, right. Call me when you write Brown Alpha Male in the Ring, amirite?
  • Elizabeth Bear – Not only does she sneak relationship-cooties into her work, I’ve even seen her brag about doing it!
  • Laura Anne Gilman – Sure, she’s been an editor as well as a Nebula-nominated author, but she also wrote some books for Luna. Romance! Fake Writer Girl! Unclean!
  • Nnedi Okorafor – We all know she’s an award-winning novelist, but she’s also writing a Disney Fairies book. Need I say more?
  • Kameron Hurley – Not just a fake writer girl, but a militant fake writer girl who actively blogs about girl stuff like sexism in addition to writing books.
  • Mary Robinette Kowal – Her work has been described as Jane Austen with magic. That’s another dead giveaway right there. And if that’s not enough, she also plays with puppets!
  • Alethea Kontis – She’s doing fairy tale retellings. Hmph. Fairy tale books are only worth reading if they’re written by a man!
  • Tansy Rayner Roberts – That’s right, even Australia has Fake Writer Girls!!!
  • Amal El-Mohtar – Yep, Canada too!
  • J. V. Jones – Sure, she was writing grimdark fantasy decades ago, but do we really have to mention her when we talk about grimdark fantasy? Can’t we just talk about the men?

Mirrored from Jim C. Hines.

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starcat_jewel
Oct. 16th, 2013 05:49 pm (UTC)
If only [girls] could write realistic, heroic protagonists like Ender Wiggin, Harry Potter, James Bond, Eragon, Lazarus Long, Clark Kent, Kvothe Kingkiller, Legolas…

One of these things is not like the others. :-)
jimhines
Oct. 16th, 2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
Ah - good point.
engelkate
Oct. 16th, 2013 05:55 pm (UTC)
Hah, thank you. :) That post was a delight to read!

Fake Writ... Game... Everything Girl out.
snapes_angel
Oct. 16th, 2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
Very silly. ;)

I normally avoid romance, not because of the cooties, but because the bulk of it annoys me. But there are god authors out there (good authors, even), competent ones. Oh, and there is at least one man writing romance. I'm on his mailing list, and he's on Facebook. *snicker* Mary Stewart's Merlin books were pretty good, too. My mother pointed them out to me. I guess I've always been a sucker for King Arthur (I'm including Merlin in this category) and Robin Hood stories.

I could always picture myself in the protagonist's role. That's what they call a suspension of disbelief, after all. A lot of times, I don't see why guys can't relate to the female protagonists. It's not the gender, but the circumstance.

The whole girl cooties thing is silly. I'm still trying to figure out what "cooties" are, anyway.

Edited at 2013-10-16 05:59 pm (UTC)
snapes_angel
Oct. 16th, 2013 06:02 pm (UTC)
Ah, just looked up the cooties bit. It's not only derogatory, but it's entirely unpleasant - and they probably went into the "girl cooties" thing because if its unpleasantness, and not because they put any real thought into it. Probably from one small boy's personal experience with it.
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reedrover
Oct. 16th, 2013 06:23 pm (UTC)
Beware the insidious but prolific Michelle Sagara West, who dares to write about autistic characters, women with powers, and other challenging concepts.
Shun the frumious Patricia Briggs, who writes about non-white women of strength and courage.
Never touch books by Tanya Huff or Elizabeth Moon, both of whom dare to write science fiction about women in the military. In additional insult to modern readers, Huff dared to write a fantasy novel where the hero was - gasp! - gay.

... And heaven forfend that we ever give any press to multiple-Hugo-winner Lois Bujold, who dares to put romance in both her science fiction and her fantasy. Truly horrifying, all.

Edited at 2013-10-16 06:27 pm (UTC)
julieandrews
Oct. 17th, 2013 01:53 pm (UTC)
Tanya Huff also has a female vampire. Who's a cop!

Horrible. Horrible.
martianmooncrab
Oct. 16th, 2013 06:23 pm (UTC)
I have been breeding my Girl Cooties for years, so you should beware!

I keep wondering, if GC are so world ending, why do Boys want to stare at Girl Bits and.. horrors.. touch them? Wouldnt the skin dwelling Cooties leap over and start to devour the Boy Cooties Boyness? Ruining their abilities to hold onto a game unit or action figure?

lenora_rose
Oct. 17th, 2013 03:42 am (UTC)
Because the type of girl cooties that scare away this sort of Boy reside in girls' brains. If you actually get into a conversation with them, you might also get infected with the true evil Girl Cooties. But if you only listen enough to get her in the sack, you're okay.

Or as someone crudely said, there's a subset of hetero men who don't like women at all, but still like to (have sexual congress with) them.
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mtlawson
Oct. 16th, 2013 06:24 pm (UTC)
This was inspired by a Twitter brouhaha, wasn't it?

(It's still full of awesome, but it sure came out of the blue.)
jimhines
Oct. 16th, 2013 06:27 pm (UTC)
Nothing specific, actually. More of a buildup of annoyances and cluelessness from various parts of the net.
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madripoor_rose
Oct. 16th, 2013 06:25 pm (UTC)
Ah, so things haven't changed since Hawthorne complained about that damned mob of scribbling women, huh.
dracothelizard
Oct. 16th, 2013 06:35 pm (UTC)
How dare women start writing sci-fi. It's not like a woman invented the genre or anything. Mary Shelley was obviously a penname for Percy Shelley!
cat_collector
Oct. 16th, 2013 06:57 pm (UTC)
And don't forget the insidious Connie Willis. Not only does she write women characters who are just as smart as the men, but sometimes she even writes humorous SF/fantasy!
l_o_lostshadows
Oct. 16th, 2013 07:28 pm (UTC)
Don't forget N.K. Jemisin. Not only infecting fantasy with girl cooties, but also has the gall to be not white. (I have done my bit to reduce the available copies.)
cainle_bean
Oct. 16th, 2013 07:48 pm (UTC)
C E Murphy - gamer, girl, geek, comic book writer, sci fi fantasy writer, cute, young adult writer

nevacaruso
Oct. 16th, 2013 08:02 pm (UTC)
Beware Tamora Pierce, who has a thirty-year history of corrupting innocent children with numerous books about girls using swords, magic, courage, brains, compassion, and any other tools at their disposal to save themselves and those in need, often without the help of men. I wouldn't be surprised if she influenced an entire generation of girls to believe that they could pursue any path that boys could pursue... including writing fantasy!

INNOCENT CHILDREN, MR. HINES! *falls over*
snapes_angel
Oct. 16th, 2013 08:22 pm (UTC)
I was on a Tamora Pierce reading kick for a while. What prompted me to pick up one of her books in the first place was the horse on the cover. ;)
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anderyn
Oct. 16th, 2013 08:39 pm (UTC)
Early examples of Fake Writer Girls would be Leigh Brackett, who even had the temerity to write a screenplay for The Empire Strikes Back, among other noir and Western works; C. L. Moore, who wrote under a male-seeming name, and managed to infiltrate the pulps; and Andre Norton, who wrote more than enough young adult science fiction and fantasy to inundate whole libraries with her girl cooties. There are more, but those are the ones that made my childhood reading memorable, to be sure. ('strue, while I adored me some Heinlein and Clarke and Asimov, I also loved Moore and Brackett and Norton. Good thing, too.)

Edited at 2013-10-16 08:39 pm (UTC)
reedrover
Oct. 16th, 2013 09:31 pm (UTC)
The dedication of the first Sword & Sorceress anthology still brings a tear to my eye:

"To C.L.Moore, and all of us who grew up wanting to be Jirel."
sinnamongirl
Oct. 16th, 2013 09:00 pm (UTC)
Random promotional effort: A friend of mine successfully kickstarted a Fake Geek Girls web series.
serialbabbler
Oct. 16th, 2013 09:20 pm (UTC)
Fake Science Fiction Writer Girls just from my paperback shelves:

Kim Antieau
Patricia Anthony
Margaret Wander Bonanno
Leigh Brackett
Lois McMaster Bujold
Octavia Butler
Pat Cadigan
Diane Carey
Sylvia Engdahl
C.S. Friedman
Karen Haber
H.M Hoover
Nancy Kress
Ursula K. LeGuin
Susan R. Matthews
Elizabeth Moon
Andre Norton
Rebecca Ore
Susan Shwartz
Sheri Tepper
Sydney Van Scyoc
Cherry Wilder
Kate Wilhelm
serialbabbler
Oct. 16th, 2013 09:23 pm (UTC)
And Fake Fantasy Writer Girls from the same shelves:

Lynn Abbey
Natalie Babbitt
Margaret Ball
Elizabeth Boyer
Kristen Britain
Mary Brown
Robin Hobb
Emma Bull
Trudi Canavan
Suzy Mckee Charnas
Diane Duane
Joanne Harris
Diana Wynne Jones
Jane Lindskold
Holly Lisle
Elizabeth A. Lynn
R.A. MacAvoy
Margaret Mahy
K.E. Mills
Donna Jo Napoli
Midori Snyder
Zilpha Keatley Snyder
Nancy Springer
Caroline Stevermer
Cynthia Voigt
Jane Yolen
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wolf_shadow
Oct. 16th, 2013 09:28 pm (UTC)
*to read book list expands*

:P
jimhines
Oct. 16th, 2013 10:35 pm (UTC)
Noooooo! THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY WANT!!!
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georgmi
Oct. 16th, 2013 11:04 pm (UTC)
Hey, now. How do we know some of these "women" authors aren't really men taking on a female-sounding name to take advantage of the significant boost to sales and fan respect that we know goes along with not being a white male?
jimhines
Oct. 17th, 2013 11:39 am (UTC)
Ooh - I didn't even think about that. The conspiracy is even deeper than I realized!!!
inaurolillium
Oct. 17th, 2013 12:19 am (UTC)
And a woman -- no, a teenage girl ABSOLUTELY DID NOT found the entire science fiction genre with Frankenstein. Nopenopenopenopeoctopus. Mary Shelley was absolutely not a Real Writer. Right?
paragraphs
Oct. 17th, 2013 12:44 am (UTC)
I think of all the authors my dad has passed on to me over the years - such fakers as Vonda McIntyre, Zenna Henderson, Anne McCaffrey, Catherine Asaro (who he adores, silly old man, doesn't he understand girls can't write science fiction? tsk)... oh yeah. Totally fakers. Yeah.

(thank you Dad, for never caring who wrote that sci fi you handed me, just that it was a good story and you thought I might like it)



aulus_poliutos
Oct. 18th, 2013 01:26 pm (UTC)
Wait, there's a man involved in this? The traitor.

My father isn't any better, though, he always told me I could do whatever I want and not to take any 'but you're a girl' bullshit.
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beth_bernobich
Oct. 17th, 2013 12:58 am (UTC)
I get this all the time. OMG, you got love cooties in my epic fantasy! (Though sometimes I get OMG, you got politics in my romance.)
snapes_angel
Oct. 17th, 2013 02:26 am (UTC)
Politics in romance?

XD

Sorry, but that struck me as hilarious. I've heard the first one mentioned (second hand), but never that second, particular complaint.
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ironed_orchid
Oct. 17th, 2013 03:43 am (UTC)
Thank you. this is just perfect.
valarltd
Oct. 17th, 2013 05:41 am (UTC)
And sometimes, they are so subtle and sneaky, like the untrustworthy Sara Harvey, who not only stole valuable review space in Publisher's Weekly for Convent of the Pure, she utterly vanished any trace of sex in what PW called "fluffy lesbian erotica" due to her Fake Writer Girl Powers!

Or worse, the dastardly Elizabeth Donald who being a Fake Writer Girl managed to raise actual Kickstarter money and is even now canvassing the East Coast on a tour for her Fake Books!

Let's not talk about Tanith Lee, or Julian May. Barbara Hambly or Laurell K Hamilton. Fake, fake fake, all of them. I must go read some Louis L'Amour... Because I am totally NOT hard at work on my thirteenth novel.

jimhines
Oct. 17th, 2013 11:42 am (UTC)
They labeled it lesbian erotica, and there's no sex in it? I don't...but...wait, what?
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cakmpls
Oct. 17th, 2013 12:19 pm (UTC)
I have the terrible feeling that selected quotes from this will wind up on the Internet, being taken seriously.
snapes_angel
Oct. 17th, 2013 02:27 pm (UTC)
At which we can point, and laugh, and scoff, and point others in th right direction via the comments section.
gypsy_owl
Oct. 17th, 2013 01:53 pm (UTC)
Hey Jim, unrelated to this post, but a friend shared this on FB and I thought that I'd pass the link on to you, as it made me think of your cover poses...

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/banter/photos-ducati-1199-panigale-moto-corsa-seducative-manigale/
thewayne
Oct. 17th, 2013 05:17 pm (UTC)
I think my most egregious encounters with Mary Sue were with Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan, the dude could do anything and could do no wrong. Also Travis Taylor, though I've only read a couple by him.

I didn't stop reading Clancy because of Ryan, though, it was because of Rainbow Six. In it he used the phrase "He found killing people as easy as zipping up his fly." He used it three times! Sadly, an author who became too big to edit.
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