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Monday LOL Books

I'm back from Context, and very sleepy. Fortunately, the State of Michigan cooperated by shutting down government and laying me off, so I got to sleep in a little bit. Sigh ... so it turns out they signed a deal at 5 in the morning, and expected us to report to work today. So now I'm back. On the bright side, yay for getting paid!

Anyway, full con report will come later.

Being a plan-ahead kind of guy, I had already prepared this week's LOL book. Today we have Night's Angel, by Robin Bailey (aka robinbailey).

This is the Meisha Merlin omnibus of the Bailey's three Frost books, which are good sword & sorcery if you're interested in that particular subgenre. You know, I love my genre, but sometimes fantasy cover art just makes me cringe. Though to be fair, I was a teenage boy when I read the first Frost book...

As always, Previous LOL books are available at http://jimhines.livejournal.com/tag/lol.

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jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:11 pm (UTC)
Turns out they signed a budget agreement at 5 am, so technically I was supposed to be in at 7:30. Whee...
david_de_beer
Oct. 1st, 2007 01:26 pm (UTC)
Context - full con report:

yes, please! and, is there a database or something where one can see all the cons that will be held out there?
Long story but - 1) this looked like a good con (when I finally tracked it down, and which I did cause), 2) Context got mentioned to me, and I'm "eh? what's a context?"

but this looks like the kind of con I would have loved to go to!

great cover as usual:)
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:13 pm (UTC)
Hi David,

Locus has a convention list with most of them at their website. It was a smaller con, but I had a great time.
namelessarchon
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:07 pm (UTC)
Ok
So she really doesn't need to wear armor over any vital organ, but hey, that never stopped Conan! Long live the memory of Robert E. Howard!



"Know, O Prince, that between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the gleaming cities, and the rise of the Sons of Aryas, there was an Age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world like blue mantles beneath the stars Nemedia, Ophir, Brythunia, Hyperborea, Zamora with its dark-haired women and towers of spider-haunted mystery, Zingara with its chivalry, Koth that bordered the pastoral lands of Shem, Stygia with its shadow-guarded tombs, Hyrkania whose riders wore steel and silk and gold. But the proudest kingdom of the world was Aquilonia, reigning supreme in the dreaming west. Hither came Conan the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the earth under his sandled feet."

chris_gerrib
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:13 pm (UTC)
This is probably the best LOLcover you've done!
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:44 pm (UTC)
Thanks, Chris!

Wait until you see next week's :-)
ellameena
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:41 pm (UTC)
I was pretty confused when I read your post saying you weren't at work, seeing as how I'd just heard on the news that an emergency budget had been signed...but who am I to ruin your day off? That's someone else's job!
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:44 pm (UTC)
I got a letter over the weekend ordering me not to report to work until I heard otherwise.

They signed the budget agreement at 5 in the morning today.

Sigh.
ellameena
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:46 pm (UTC)
You got a letter? So they must have sent it out days ago! Quite a lot of faith they have in the legislature, eh? Oh, well. You got to sleep in, at least. :-)
ogre_san
Oct. 1st, 2007 02:55 pm (UTC)
That cover almost doesn't need a LOL. (Though it's a good one).
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 03:08 pm (UTC)
Thanks -- Robin had interesting comments about the cover. If he stops by, hopefully he'll share some of them :-)
robinbailey
Oct. 1st, 2007 06:37 pm (UTC)
Comments along the lines of "Well, damn, there go the library sales!" Most of the other comments would get me charged with conspiracy to commit homicide.

It was very funny, in a quiet sort of hide-your-mouth-behind-your-hand way, to watch Diana really read the Meisha Merlin staff over this one. On the plus side, I learned after this to take more control over my covers, and I've at least got to consult on them, and in a couple of cases, design them. That's a control I will never give up again. You can write the best book in the world and watch it tank because some idiot had the publishing end fucked the chicken.
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 07:15 pm (UTC)
It's got to suck when you realize mail-orders of your book will be filled by putting the book in a plain brown wrapper.

Can I ask how hard it was to negotiate some cover control in your contracts? I imagine it would depend a bit on the publisher, too.
namelessarchon
Oct. 1st, 2007 07:50 pm (UTC)
Ouch
I think I would actually have a chicken if someone put that cover on anything I wrote. It would be like.... 'uhhhh, so Grandma... this is my new book...', not to mention trying to explain it to my mother, wife, or any other woman without exotic dancer experience ^_^
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 09:35 pm (UTC)
Re: Ouch
I can only imagine what my 7-year-old would say if I got one of those covers for my next book...
stephanieburgis
Oct. 1st, 2007 03:01 pm (UTC)
Aha! My dad works for the State of MI too (I think you know him?) so I was just wondering whether the shutdown had gone ahead today...I'm glad for the payday for all of you but OUCH! for the late notice!
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 03:07 pm (UTC)
He does? I do? Which dept. does he work in? And is he a Burgis?

Yeah, the late notice was ... annoying.
stephanieburgis
Oct. 1st, 2007 03:22 pm (UTC)
Yup, he's also a Burgis! He's in the Family Independence Agency (if's that still what they're calling it? used to be Social Services), and his first name's Richard (Rich) - I think you guys must have met at some point because when I mentioned your name to him a year or so ago he knew who you were from the dayjob. But don't worry, I have a terrible memory for names/faces, so I won't be offended if you don't remember (and won't pass it on to him, either)! :)
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 10:31 pm (UTC)
Hm ... when I was doing computers, I supported a few different departments, but never FIA. This is going to bug me now.

Oh, wait -- it's also possible he's thinking of my father, who is another Jim Hines and ran one of the juvenile homes out here for years, so he would have worked with FIA a lot.

Either way, small world :-)
ramblin_phyl
Oct. 1st, 2007 03:43 pm (UTC)
If I send you a copy of Moon In The Mirror will you LOL it?
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 08:11 pm (UTC)
A copy isn't necessary -- LOL books are a work of love :-)

I don't necessarily want to get into doing requests. Mostly because I'm afraid of where that could lead.

But let me stare at this one for a while and see if anything comes to me...
gryphart
Oct. 1st, 2007 07:09 pm (UTC)
Ouch. Man, I really wish fantasy would grow out of the barely-covered warriors.
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 07:13 pm (UTC)
I think most of the genre has moved past it, but there are throwbacks. Heck, I love Realms of Fantasy, but half of their covers make me roll my eyes so hard I strain something.

Did you catch Robin's thoughts in the comments?
gryphart
Oct. 1st, 2007 08:21 pm (UTC)
Yeah. Poor Robin - it's always baffled me why The Powers That Be often don't give authors much of a say in their covers to begin with. I guess it's intended to reduce the number of cooks in the kitchen, which is always appreciated, but the one time I worked directly with an author, everything was just fine.
jimhines
Oct. 1st, 2007 10:26 pm (UTC)
I can understand it, and even agree with it in theory. As an author, I'm supposed to be good with words. But the odds are, I'm not going to be as good at visual art and graphic design as the professional artist and designer. Combine that with the fact that we authors can be awfully picky about our covers, and it has the potential for messiness.

There's also the fact that as an author, I want the cover to be accurate. The publisher wants the cover to sell the books, and accuracy is nice too. But take the Goblin Quest cover -- that scene never happens in the book, but it's a great cover, and it captures the feel of the story really well.

And yeah, the too many cooks thing would be another reason.

But I'm sure I'd be much less understanding about it if they had given me a buxom goblin lass wearing nothing but a few strategic keychains...
bearmountain
Oct. 1st, 2007 11:46 pm (UTC)
That cover is one of the most amazingly bad covers I've ever seen...and they say they want to attract those who buy the most books, which would be women...and they say that Sci/fi is logical, yet how do they expect a book with a woman dressed in her underwear to be at all believable...

I find it quite interesting when women authors in the paranormal writing field end up with covers sort of like this one (not as bad. Is it possible to be any worse????) I realize authors don't have much say in the covers in many cases, but I also wonder what the editors or marketing are thinking?

There have been several books that I bought that I would not take on a plane trip with me. They aren't that bad, but they aren't really all that great either.

Ah well.
hyptosis
Oct. 1st, 2007 11:55 pm (UTC)
That is the mostus awesome cover ever. O_o




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